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MOCKING THE DRAFT

2005 NBA Draft | NBA Mock Draft | Player Profiles | Player Rankings

By Shawn Siegel

collegehoopsnet@aol.com

June 29th, 2005

 

NBA Draft: Mocking the Draft

 

CHN was live on Tuesday night with running commentary of the Draft and a continually updating Draft board.  Here's an archive of the over four hours of commentary, analysis, and mockery brought to you by CHN's Shawn Siegel and Ryne Nelson.  Draft fans also occasionally chimed in and dropped their points as well.

 

Shawn Siegel (11:49) well.. it was certainly an interesting draft.. one of the most wacky in recent year, certainly more uncertainty than ever.. a lot of big names weren't picked.. randolph morris? ouch.. kennedy winston? ouch.. John Gilchrist? ouch.. Sean Banks? ouch.. and no love for Jawad Williams, the true tar heel.. (11:46) we made it! the last pick.. (11:40) sometimes its easy to forget just how good a scorer kiki was in the nba.. (11:38) some interesting players still out there.. no kennedy winston.. no randolph morris.. no john gilchrist.. (11:34) have to love lawrence roberts getting picked.. talk about an accomplished college player getting no respect, this guy is it.. it's not like lawrence is too small like a lot of the other college players who are disrespected.. (11:32) i think these guys make a false assumption that everyone who comes out truly thought they were going to go to in round one.. the real fact of the matter is that some guys just are tired of school, and would rather take their chances even if it means going in round 2.. (11:28) miami has a real solid front-office right now.. randy pfund and pat riley are class guys, and unlike some other front-offices, they get it.. (11:23) nice pick for celtics.. smith is completely off about gomes being compared to weatherspoon.. gomes really improved his body last year, and is not the baby-face you may remember from his first two seasons.. (11:20) gotta love the hair for gelabale.. how could a team take bracey wright over gelabale.. wright will never make it in the nba, sorry hoosier fans.. (11:18) babcock is a joke.. steven smith is right, it's sad how bad of a gm he is.. (11:16) big marty goes to orlando.. fran is right on about his agent being fired.. he came in at the worst time now, after doing virtually nothing last year.. but if ian mahimi goes in round one, you can't complain with getting a 7-2 talent in round two.. (11:06) finally chris taft.. even though you might say it was a bad decision for him to go, it's not like his stock would ever have gone much higher.. (11:01) a steal for toronto here, but why him and diener?.. one of those has to get moved.. (10:59) ellis goes, but blatche and williams remain.. even without the knee issues, ellis was never more than a fringe 1st round pick anyways.. (10:50) love the last two picks.. i'd be all over ronny turiaf at this point.. if you take away his injuries, and just look at his talent, turiaf is a no-doubter in round one.. ilyasova is also a steal.. so what if he's a year older.. he's still young..  (10:46) good point by andy katz for once, will miles return to school? man, that's a tough call.. going so high in round 2 gives him a good chance to hook on a roster.. texas has a lot of talent, so how much could he even do next year? it's not like miles is a lock for round 1 next year.. (10:45) ricky sanchez.. who knew? another loss for john calipari.. (10:43) really like miles at 34.. at this point, why not take a chance on a high school kid? especially now, you can stash them in the nbdl.. it's really a no-brainer.. (10:39) i'm all with greg anthony on the skill of shaun livingston.. he really can be that good.. (10:37) let's not all get on the salim bandwagon.. no doubt he can shoot.. but there's a lot of questions about his game.. (10:35) russ granik is a legend.. smith brings up a good point about sprewell most likely being shipped out.. (10:33) that sam adams commercial was the worst ever.. on the line with an herbal essences commercial.. (10:30) lee into the 1st round is another surprise.. shows you how deep and even this draft was.. i guess this means big marty andriuskevicius will now go to portland at 35.. gomes, turiaf, ilyasova, and leni-ukic could all be steals early in round two.. (10:26) simien's alright, but he's not even as good as udonis haslem.. (10:24) if i hear jay bilas say the word long again, i'll slap him with my long left hand.. (10:21) tonight is a great example of the lack of real knowledge that's out there about the inside thinking of nba gm's.. no one saw a lot of these picks coming.. (10:19) iam mahimi in round one.. this kid came from nowhere in about the last week to enter anyone's draft radar.. and now he's in round one.. this guy will be a long-term project.. but no team can wait longer than the spurs.. who already have their cornerstones..  (10:13) we've had kleiza rated higher than anyone else.. but i never thought he'd actually go in round one.. where big marty going now if not to portland?.. (10:10) not looking food for monta ellis, andray blatche, and cj miles.. one of these guys is going round 2 for sure.. (10:08) a few minutes away before the legend of  (10:07) maxiell in round one.. 6 years from now, we will all be asking who is jason maxiell? wasn't he once a draft pick..(10:03) only player left who i'm surprised about is roko leni-ukic.. he could be a real steal.. we have him rated higher than jack and robinson.. (10:02) no surprise with the nuggets trading jack, as we discussed below.. 35 can be a real nice pick for them, it's basically first round talent.. (9:55) coach k commercials.. brutal.. and what does larry brown know about the right way.. all he knows is how to bail out on teams to maximize his prestige.. (9:53) no surprise with head either, they can count on head to be a solid role player for years to come.. (9:50) not a big surprise with this pick, but everyone who reads this site knows i'm not a fan of garcia.. if he ever makes his mark in the nba.. it will be on d, not on o.. (9:45) good point from ryne below, so do the nuggets make a trade now, who needs miller, boykins, and jack?..(9:49) Like expected, the draft is still exciting even into the late first round. The suprises (Robinson, Diogu, Green) are keeping me glued to the set! (9:44) Miller, Boykins and Jack? That's WAY too many PGs for a team..  (9:40) so nate to the knicks? isaiah's trying to push the temp it seems with him and q.. but here's the thing? the knicks have no size and still are a 30 win team.. (9:39) who saw that coming? nate dog in the top 25? how is that possible? (9:36) have to like hodge.. like how he's thanking the nuggets.. that's class.. (9:34) did jerry west just say warrick played at princeton?? (9:32) julius hodge at 21.. biggest shocker so far.. they need youth at the guards.. (9:25) jay bilas says everyone is long, he has nothing legit to say.. (9:20) big steal for the celtics.. say so long to paul pierce.. he's a sick athlete.. he will make a lot of teams look real bad down the line.. but gerald, god doesn't care what team you're on.. get that stuff out of your system.. (9:14) wow, greg anthony says granger is like scottie pippen.. not really greg, granger can't play the point forward.. (9:12) still shocked at no green taken.. even from the raptors.. was his workouts that bad?? (9:04) interesting pick here, still leaves the nets without a center.. and i guess wright will now be their backup shooting guard.. unless they have some deal in the works to ship rj, and they put vince at the thre.. (9:00) nets could get a steal with danny granger here..(8:56) tough luck for nets.. may or diogu would have fit best, but where does warrick go with them? should be an interesting pick.. (8:51) still antoine wright, gerald green, hakim warrick mccants out there.. (8:47) dick vitale, give up the college player crusade, it's so old already.. (8:40) this is an a+ translator.. i'd take him on my team.. forget vazquez.. (8:38) fran vazquez.. still no gerald green.. killing my mock draft!.. (8:32) wow again.. shocker to me.. he's under 18, maybe by the time kobe retires bynum will be good.. (8:27) wow.. ike diogu.. i was thinking definitely warrick or granger.. but i like the pick a lot.. (8:22) (8:18) how far will gerald green fall? (8:13) what is that pick about? with bosh? greg anthony is right.. he's solid (8:10) wow! martell's mom's hat is insane!!! (8:07) webster over green.. could come back to haunt the blazers.. though they'll both be great.. but can the blazers deal with another kid.. i actually agree with steven smith for once..(8:02) will blazers take green or webster? has to be green, he's a stud.. (7:59) felton.. his lucky pay day.. could be turnover prone.. (7:57) i still get confused with charlotte and new orleans.. too many hornets and former hornets.. useless franchises..(7:55) if not for hitting someone below the belt, paul would have been #3.. (7:47) how bout stern with the paus!.. (7:46) my 2 year old nephew knows more about the draft than dukie v.. (7:42) marvin is marvelous.. but the hawks will still be awful next year..(7:35) no surprise here.. how's jay bilas going to deal with no dukies in the first round??.. (7:35) here he comes.. the legend david stern.. (7:33) I'm pumped folks.. let the games begin.. (1:26 pm) Hey everyone.. look forward to seeing you all tonight at 7:15 here on chn.. should be a great draft.. lots of action.. we'll be posting fan comments and analysis and mockery on here tonight.. send all comments as they happen live to AIM: collegehoopsnet

 

Ryne Nelson (11:48) Thanks for checkin' CHN for all the latest draft news and commentary. You all are the best....and remember Gerald Green = The Green Destiny (11:37) Amir Johnson must feel lucky right now....but then again, he's on Detroit..  at least he'll get to know Darko at the end of the bench  (11:32) Jay Bilas: "I dont' know who told Matt Walsh he was a first round pick. But whoever told him that was an idiot."...great analysis (11:22) When half listening, Mickael Gelabale sounded like Michael Jordan...When half wearing the hat, Gelabale looks like a pin head (11:19) it's funny how Bracey was a more valued recruit than Deron.. his high school teammate (11:15) sorry, but I can't respect anyone from a town called Bologna (11:13) The man once heralded as the next Allen Iverson has a good mentor next year (11:09) Dickie, GOOD NIGHT! Go to bed.. please (11:04) Taft is a great get at this point. .however, he's obviously nothing more than a backup for Dwight Howard (11:02) RC Buford looks like such a hick.. (11:00) At the 40 pick in the draft, I have to give props to my man Shawn Siegel for settin' up this great site and draft coverage (10:59) How can you do badly with a McDonald's All-American and a consensus Top 10 high schooler this late in the draft? (10:55) Von Waffer = steal.. 2004 McDonald's All American (10:51) sticking in college another year didn't help turiaf's stock whatsoever (10:48) when will louis williams go? he just got an agent..  heralded as the No. 1 high schooler in the beginning of the year, he's fallen into the unguaranteed second round.. he better hope to get drafted soo.. (10:46) I don't know Sanchez, but how much of an impact can a 6'11' 190lber have? (10:44) CJ Miles looks like Ray Allen!!.. do I hear a sequel to He Got Game?.. Spike!!! You better hear this! He Got Game Part II (10:42) this has nothing to do with the draft, but R. Kelly's coming out with Trapped in the Closet Parts 6-10 soon.. man's an R&B machine.. it must be getting late.. (10:40) Greg Anthony is right on about Shaun Livingston. An All-Star in a couple years (10:36) Stoudamire and Williams, good selections for the Hawks. I think Salim will start for the team.. (10:35) Russ, not a much better suit than Stern.. (10:26) great choice for the Heat. Got some reinforcement at a position at which they're very thin.. Simien and Diesel = scariest frontcourt in the NBA (10:18) How are you going to replace Big Shot Bob? Well, they outsource the job...I guess they're going for a banger, not a shooter.. I love it when a player must improve "Overall Skills"  (10:12) I don't care who Kleiza is and neither do the Blazers, apparently. They're reportedly dealing him and a second rounder for Jack (10:07) Maxiell is a second rounder and nothing else (10:00) yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Il peut parler francais avec Tony Parker beaucoup!!!! (9:55) Luther Head: the highest voice in the draft  (9:53) Word around town is Houston taking Luther Head. They're not happy with Bobby Sura (9:51) Francisco Garcia to the Kings is NOT a smart pick. He and Kevin Martin are going to fight for minutes (9:42) Still, they could have gotten some so much better at No.21. What about Jarrett Jack, Marbury's cousin?.. well, they might not be cousins, but they look alike (9:40) Robinson to the Knicks!!! The crowd loves that announcement (9:39) a matchup I would love: Earl Boykins vs. nate Robinson (9:37) I bet you Magic doesn't remember that.. (9:36) D*mn, that's a white suit! (9:35) I have to laugh at Phoenix for this next pick from the Bulls. Last year, they dealt the No. 7 pick (Luol Deng) for this pick (9:33) If Hodge can play SG for the Nugs, and they can stay motivated for the entire year, I'd look for them to be among the Top 4 in the West next year (9:27) Great replacement for Stromile Swift, it's too bad they can't have those players on the same roster (9:25) The Helicoptor to the Grizz. Great pick (9:19) This could be exciting....Green, Pierce and Walker...somehow doesn't sound like a good pick.. Alright, I'm going to dub Green his new nickname: the Green Destiny (9:17) Well Granger can DEFINITELY take care of his fam with those millions he'll be makin' with the Pacers.. and what's more important than fam.. (9:14) Many people were saying Francisco Garcia would be the Reggie Miller replacement, I guess we all were wrong (9:13) Danny Granger is the best dressed player of the 2005 Draft so far (9:10) I wonder what Granger, Warrick and Green are thinking right now....I wish they would show them.. oh they just did, karma works that way, he looks nervous.. (9:09) I still don't know why Graham wasn't invited to the Green Room (9:04) Wright could be a great backup for Carter, but why? (8:59) I guess Minnesota forgot how to draft after that long ban from the draft .. i predict warrick for the nets.. (8:57) who was Stern looking at? (8:55) Sean May: future Magic Johnson Award winner from the Pro Basketball Writers Association (8:54) haha, Charlotte picked two North Carolina players...they should trade up for McCants now(8:47) Why talk to Vitale about the HSers and international players? We all know who he's REALLY going to talk about.. (8:46) Korolev in a pink uniform? Only in Europe? (8:45) Could Yaroslav Korolev be the next Kirilenko? Or are the comparison's there because they're both Russian? (8:41) Vazquez looks like a combination of Shawn Bradley and Troy Murphy (8:40) Oh, don't tell me the Clippers are going to get Green. You might as well call L.A.'s other team a talent breading ground...and then they leave (8:39) Sorry to stereotype, but you can't be a good NBA player if your name is Fran! (8:37) Wouldn't that be sweet? Francis, Green, Hill and Howard? I can see it now.. (8:33) Andrew Bynum: the youngest ever player to be drafted into the NBA (8:31) Oh shoot! Watch out! Bynum and Kobe 2007 could be O'Neal and Kobe 2001 (8:26) What!!!! Ike Diogu?? The first coucher of the '05 draft. I guess that answers the question as to who'll be the first to be drafted from the couch (8:26) Andrew Bynum could be the next HSer selected. Who would have thought that: Bynum and Webster before Green? (8:21) The best talent left in the draft is Gerald Green. But does Golden State need him with J Rich on the roster? (8:20) Spike Lee's happy. That's all that matters.. (8:18) He's not Ewing, but the team needs a replacement for Kurt Thomas to get them out of their, what they call it: quagmire? (8:15) is this a trade pick? cv to the hornets..  (8:14) Guess CV's going to have to play the 3 if they want to keep Bosh at his natural position (8:11) what was that? his mom? his grandma?.. (8:09) How many times Portland gone for the potential high school gem?.. (8:07) My crew called it! Martell Webster. Seattle, Portland, Seattle, Portland, same thing, right?. (8:05) now finding a good PG is like finding winter coat in Florida.. (8:01) well, anyone who likes poetry can't be too bad....what color is Ray's suit? ..I still have a grudge against Felton for sinking the Illini with that clutch, long triple in the champ game.. (8:00) Third PGs taken in the first five picks. Hum, I wonder that last happened?.. Bob Johnson and the Cats pick Felton. He's obviously drafting for need, not talent.. (7:58) Could the Cats take Felton, the hometown hero?...or will they go for a scorer like Green? (7:55) Now the question: will Jamal Magloire be on the Hornets after tonight (7:53) D Granger: next American idol (7:52) NBA Live looks GREAT! But Ray Allen dunking on Ben Wallace? Rip Hamilton hitting a three! (7:48) Highest Illinois player to ever be picked! DWill is going to lead the Jazz to the playoffs next year.. Deron Williams! U of I all the way!.. (7:47) Favorite show:  Fresh Prince! (7:45) Roy Williams SHOULD be worried about his Tarheels. Who's he kidding! (7:41) Now the REAL question: what if ATL takes a PG? That would screw up all the mocks.. They should ban that pic of Bogut in the Kukoc uniform.. (7:39) I dont even have to see the players; Stern's got to get that changed.. (7:37) Whoa!!!! This time it's Stern with the WORST suit! (7:36) What do y'all say? Fosters for everyone tonight? (7:35) What's good everyone! The NBA is draft is the best time of the year. Glad to see you're checkin' in to the best site in the basketball universe. Let's get this started!

Tim From NJ : Tim From NJ :  (9:27) doc says paul pierce won't be moved, right.. to bad he's not the gm.. (9:06) atoine likes tacos, and i do too!.. Ron from Raleigh: (8:58) two carolina players for bobcats.. woo! (8:54) mark jones' questions are a joke.. stuart too, enough.. (8:44) i hate john bastow.. or whatever is name is.. (8:42) it's always an adventure when elgin baylor makes a pick.. Johnny From LA: (8:36) worst pick ever.. bynum will be a bum..  (8:33) i guarantee he won't even be as good as brendan haywood.. DrJay7: (8:26) Channing Frye will be another Charles Smith... the Knicks will regret this pick (8:22) does anyone watch wimbledon anymore? (8:19) first senior taken.. but he averaged 7 boards per game in college.. weak.. (8:07) one word from andy katz is too many..(8:00) felton is a turonver waiting to happen.. (7:58) winnie the pooh will help every team.. (7:55) wow, chris and his brother fought with knives..(7:49) Deron's girlfriend is smokin! that's what it's about.. (7:43) Roy Wiliams must be crying on the inside right now, knowing he lost Marvin.. (7:40) Stuart Scott is a joke..

 

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