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Big East Basketball: 5 Things We've Learned So Far

December 4th, 2008
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After a month of play, the Big East has proved it's just as good as any conference in the country.  Several teams have had big wins so far (Seton Hall, Syracuse, and Notre Dame), and the conference currently has an AP-record 8 teams in the top 25.  Other teams have had early upsets though (Louisville, Marquette).  At this point in regular season, it's a little too early to nail down each team's true identity, but there's just enough to start the  conversation.  Some of these points may prove to be true, others may turn out just the opposite.  Whatever does happen, though, is what helps make college basketball the most exciting sport around.

 

Syracuse Basketball is Back

Jim Boeheim's squad is finally healthy and ready to make a deep run in the NCAA tourney. The only loss for the Orange from last year is Donte Green who made an early exit to the NBA, but Eric Devendorf has taken his place after an injury plagued 2007 campaign, and has picked where he left off in putting up 15 ppg. Jonny Flynn brings tremendous speed to the team and is very dangerous from beyond the arc, shooting 42% on the year.  Arinze Onuaku and Paul Harris have provided solid play in the low post with 13.5 and 12.5 ppg, respectively.  ‘Cuse has made an early statement so far in knocking off two ranked teams in Florida and Kansas to win the CBE championship.  What seems to be the most impressive part of their season thus far is the win against Kansas, where the Orange switched from their signature 2-3 zone to man-to-man coverage to rally from a 13-point deficit in the second half to force overtime and take home the crown.  This team has a nice balance from top to bottom, and has a great shot at a bye in the Big East Tournament.

 

Biggest Surprise: Seton Hall

The Pirates are off to their best start in 8 years after a solid run in the Puerto Rico Tip-Off, sporting big wins over 21st ranked USC and a Virginia Tech team that should make the dance come March.  Jeremy Hazell leads the way with 21.8 points per game, 3rd overall in the Big East, and John Garcia is providing balance down low with 10 and 10 per game.  The biggest improvement overall from last year?  Defending the 3-ball.  Seton Hall's 3-point field goal percentage on defense is tops in the Big East at 22.4%, compared to 37% last year.  Despite Garcia's performance up to this point, the biggest weakness for the Pirates is rebounding (36.7 per game, 14th in the Big East).  In order for this team to make any noise in conference play against physical teams like Notre Dame and Louisville, they'll have to get it done on the boards.

 

Samardo Samuels is Living Up To The Hype

On an absolutely loaded Louisville team, of which the other four starters consist of three juniors and a senior, Samuels has dominated, putting up 18 points per game, 6 more than the next player.  At 6'8" he brings good size to play in the low post, and should improve on pulling down more than 6 boards a game.  Coach Pitino's main issues with Samuels are defense and his ego, but given the Godfather's track record, he should have no problems with keeping this kid level-headed.  Sure, the competition of Morehead State and South Alabama are not comparable to the Big East, and the WKU loss was a bit disappointing, but Samuels has certainly made some early noise on a very talented team with hopes of a Final Four run.  Look for him to make a convincing bid for Big East freshman of the year.

 

Marquette is Overrated

Last Saturday's performance was the worst I've seen from the Golden Eagles in quite some time.  The Dayton Flyers out-classed Marquette in every phase of the game in the Chicago Invitational.  Free throws have plagued this team for several years now, and Saturday was no different.  As a team Marquette shot 64% from the line, and if you exclude Wes Matthews' 14-17 stats, the rest shot a paltry 47%.  Coupling that with shooting 20% from beyond the arc for a team who lives and dies by the 3-ball makes for an ugly night.  Ok, let's say that they just had a bad night of shooting.  Every team has an off night, right?  There are still several factors ailing this team.  One of these is Buzz Williams entry as head coach.  He's bringing a new offensive scheme to a team of which 3 of the 5 starters played under a different system for 3 years.  The other main issue is an inside presence.  Having a solid big man has troubled Marquette for several years now, and after losing Ousmane Barro it's more apparent than ever before.  The Golden Eagles run a 3-guard set like last year, but this year features 6'8 Dwight Burke down low, who has never averaged more than 3 points a game, and still doesn't.  Buzz has even run a 4-guard set a few times this year, replacing Burke with Maurice Acker, and having Hayward on the wing looks closer to a 5-guard set.  This strategy hasn't quite blown up on Marquette yet due to the lack of competition, but teams like Notre Dame, Louisville, and Georgetown will tear it apart in conference play.  For this team to have any success in the Big East and the NCAA tourney this year, they need to rely on their speed to get inside looks and control the tempo through a full-court offense.

 

Notre Dame Will Repeat Last Season's Success

ND's only loss from last year is power forward Rob Kurz, who has been replaced by redshirt freshman Carleton Scott.  The rest of the crew is back, and is unchanged from last year.  What Notre Dame does well is run the half-court offense.  Kyle McAlarney is one of the best shooting guards in the country, and is currently making more than half of his shots from beyond the arc.  Luke Harangody speaks for himself.  He's averaging more than 20 and 10 per game, and is surprisingly quick for a big man; there's no reason he shouldn't be in the final running for a second Big East Player of the Year award.  Tory Jackson has improved nicely and runs the offense well with 6 assists per game.  So what continues to be Notre Dame's weakness?  Speed.  This was very apparent against North Carolina last Wednesday.  On any given full-court play, the Tarheels had scored by the time Notre Dame made it across half-court.  As for Notre Dame's eventual finish, they'll have a great regular season, and should finish in the top 15 as well as the top 4 in the Big East.  Come tournament time, however, a speedy team like Syracuse could send them home early once again.

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Anonymous's picture

Big East Basketball: 5 Things We've Learned Thus Far

Connecticut is rated number Two in the country and you have nothing to say about them good or bad??? I would think they rate a "Sixth Thing" you've learned thus far about the Big East??

Anonymous's picture

I would argue we haven't

I would argue we haven't learned all that much from Uconn's season thus far. Everything has been pretty much what was expected. AJ Price a little off, Kemba is a freshman and will have his ups and downs, Thabeet playing well, and anxiously awaiting Sticks' return for size at the 3.

Dan Daitchman's picture

UConn

My thoughts exactly. The huskies haven't done much this year that shows how great they are or that they're overrated. So far they've played mostly cupcakes. The win over Wisconsin is decent, but expected. We'll know a lot more about them after they play Gonzaga and Georgetown this month.

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Anonymous's picture

Totally agree with overrated

Totally agree with overrated assessment of Marquette. And again, Notre Dame is so good. What makes the Irish so tough is the ability for every position to shoot the 3. Even the PFs and Harangody can throw up a worthwhile attempt if they had to. Good article.

Shawn Siegel's picture

What do you make of the OSU

What do you make of the OSU loss by ND.. off-night for them or is OSU legitimately a Top 20 team?

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Anonymous's picture

Marquette Overrated?

How can you say that Marquette is overrated? I would understand that statement if they were ranked top 15 or even top 20, but they are only 25 in coaches, and not even ranked in other polls. They have three BIG TIME scorers in Mcneal, James, and Matthews, and a PF in Hayward who is one of the best in the country at his position from the outside. Sure, they have a lack of a post presence, but they more than make up for it in their other options offensively, and their 1-3-1 zone is stifling up to this point. I wouldn't ever say that they'll make it past the 2nd MAYBE 3rd of the tourny, but no way are they overrated. Did you see what the did to Villanova earlier this week and Cincy today? They shot 75% from behind the arc and were up by twice cincy's points when the starters came out with 5 minutes left in the game. Newsflash, Cincinatti has big men. Newsflash, they didn't score. Are they as good as Thabeeet or the ogre from Notre Dame? No. But they're big, and MU held them in check. MU already has wins over Wisconsin, NC State, Horizon League leading UW Milwaukee, Villanova, and Cincy. Any mid major team with that resume' and two CLOSE losses versus a Tennessee team and Dayton (who had their best shooting night in years) would be touted as phenomenal and an odds on favorite to make a run in the tournament with 3 senior guards playing great together. But, because MU is in the Big East and everyone who "knows what they're talking about" is drooling over Syracuse, UConn, Georgetown, and Notre Lame, MU gets the cop out "over-rated" label from a guy who clearly doesn't follow the team enough to know that they are playing their best basketball since D Wade left.
What does that mean? Well, MU advanced to the second round last year. The team is essentially the same this year, losing Ousmanne Barro (who's contributions were not much better than Burke and Hazel combined at center). The team is better this year in every stat category and no longer do we have to get bored and held back by Tom Crean's awful in game coaching. Ergo, a 25 ranking for MU is not overrated. Just watch, MU will make a run. They won't win it all, probably won't make the elite 8, but any team in the Big East can NOT be overrated. Best conference in the country, MU is tied for first right now. Overrated? How about underappreciated.

Evan Dorey's picture

This article is nearly a

This article is nearly a month old.

Quoting you: "Did you see what the did to Villanova earlier this week and Cincy today?" Of course Dan didn't see these things, they hadn't happened when he wrote them.

 Right now, I think MU should be right around 25th, I'd have them just in the rankings if I were doing a poll vote. The important thing is all in the last 5 games of the regular season, that will determine what the Eagles' fate is. At Georgetown, Louisville and Pitt and hosting Syracuse and UConn could easily be five losses for the wide majority of teamsin the nation. MU can't afford to drain momentum in that final stretch. I think they could be a Sweet 16 team if things go well, I don't see them further than that, but they should definitely deserve to be mentioned just behind the conference elite.

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Dan Daitchman's picture

Thoughts...

First of all, Evan is 100% right. I wrote this article over a month ago, long before they played NC State, Nova and Cincy.

In regards to the other comments, there are a few flaws and don't quite know where to start, so here it goes...

- MU is still learning to use the 1-3-1 zone, they're still predominantly a man-to-man team.
- Yes, I did see what they did to Nova and Cincy, because I was in attendance at both games.
- MU shot 60% from beyond the arc, not 75%, but nonetheless was impressive.
- I wouldn't call a win over a team leading the lowly Horizon League at this point in the seaon a quality win, especially since UWM is 8-5, mediocre at best.
- Marquette lost to Tennessee and Dayton by double-digit figures. I don't consider that to be close, especially when they match up well talent-wise with both of those teams.
- I've seen Marquette live 6 times this year and a couple times on tv. I think I follow them close enough.
- Ousmane Barro is a big loss. He was much better than Burke or Hazel are.

Having said all this, MU is ranked 15 in the coaches' poll right now. Is that high? maybe a few spots. If they keep playing basketball the way they did this past week, they should be 20th at worst by the end of the season. NCAA tourney prediction: Sweet 16 and miss the Elite 8 in a close game.

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