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MONDAY MAILBAG

Columnists | Message Board  | Monday Mailbag Archive

December 5th, 2005

 

College Basketball: Monday Mailbag

 

Each Monday, Joel Welser opens up his mailbag to answer fan questions.  One question is chosen each week to be answered by a few college assistant or head coaches.  At the end, Joel also includes some timely college basketball tidbits.  If you'd like to ask Joel a question or if you'd like to read past editions, check out the Monday Mailbag archive.

 

Coaches Question

 

Do you think experience is in some ways overrated in how experts rank teams?  Duke is playing great with two starting freshmen, and Syracuse has shown how you can win a championship led by a freshman, so why do the media and coaches continuously overlook quality young teams? 

Isn’t it possible for a program to have success with freshmen or is it too big of a leap to Division I basketball for any team to pull off NCAA success with such an inexperienced squad?

 

From Dan,

Madison, Wisconsin

 

Coach Ernie Zeigler – UCLA Assistant

I do not think experience is overrated in trying to rank teams. Although some freshmen are undoubtedly ready to perform at a high level, it is too difficult to gauge how well any freshmen will adapt to all the things in their new environments. The programs that have experienced guys usually will have success but there is not an exact science to forecasting which teams will be the best at the end of the season. This is why it is great we have a system that will determine who is the best at the end of the season without regards to any ranking systems.

 

There is no doubt a program can have NCAA success with freshmen leading the way, but I think the bigger question is how many freshmen are in the core group of the squad? The last 3 NCAA Champions, North Carolina, UConn and Syracuse all had experienced upper classmen in their main core of guys with talented freshmen included in the group. I believe this will be the formula of most successful NCAA teams, a blend of both experience and extremely talented freshmen. It will be very hard for us to see a repeat of Michigan's Fab 5 Freshmen leading a team to the Final Four and National Championship game.

 

Coach Mark Slessinger – Northwestern State Assistant

Sure, teams from the major conferences have a great chance to succeed, if the freshmen are the top recruits in the entire country, which happened with Syracuse and Duke. There are high school kids at that level who can legitimately choose between the NBA and the NCAA and compete at either level based on their talent level, so yes, a top recruit can come into a college program and make an immediate impact on the national scene. You put 2-3-4 of the top 10-15 players in a recruiting year together on a college roster and experience has shown that can produce success.
 
I don't feel that overall, media and coaches overlook young teams. There are enough chances at the blue blood end of college basketball for young teams to prove themselves early in a season and we've seen that happen. I think the ratings are fair. There are a lot of X factors that go into figuring out a Top 25 vote or a preseason poll. A veteran team is proven based on what they've done previously and no question, they're a safer choice early in the season and over the long haul, so they get more consideration than a team relying on young players who are new to college basketball -- unless they're very obviously the can't miss recruits.
 
From our perspective, whether a 'mid-major' program can have success with freshmen depends on the number of freshmen. If you have too many at one time, it's just asking a lot, and we went through that four years ago and won six games. We lost several others that had more to do with our inexperience than our talent level. Now we've turned it around and we're winning games because we know we can, we know what to do and because we've played tough non-conference schedules, our guys have lined up against some of the best teams in the country and held their own at times. Now that the 8-in-5 rule has been eliminated, a team loaded with freshmen could be competitive in a mid-major conference. You need numbers because at our level, more often than not, freshmen aren't ready to be the pivotal players even though in some cases they may be the more talented players.

 

Joel,

How real are the Gators?  Florida's my home state and I'd like to believe they're legit, but I haven't yet been convinced that this success will last throughout the entire season. 

 

Wander   

Durham, North Carolina

 

I’m not convinced yet either, but it is an impressive start.  The verdict is still out on how notable wins against Wake Forest and Syracuse really are, but they are obviously good wins at this point.  If it wasn’t for the free throw line, the Gators could have easily lost to a down Seminole squad.  Consistency is the key to continued success and, with such a young squad, that is an iffy proposition at best.  While sophomores Taurean Green, Corey Brewer, Al Horford and Joakim Noah have done a tremendous job starting thus far this season, one can’t help but think a bad break here or there could send such a young squad into a downward spiral. 

 

Florida does deserve all the early season accolades and the top 15 ranking.  I don’t think they are deep enough or experienced enough to hold on to it.  If Billy Donovan can manage to hold the young guys together, they will be a tournament team; and lose to Manhattan in the first round or something.

 

Joel,

Which team from a traditionally one bid conference has done well so far that we should look out for come March? 

 

From Kurt,

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

 

It’s not much of a surprise, but how about Bucknell out of the Patriot League.  The Bison are 5-0 and have road victories over Rider, Niagara, DePaul and Syracuse.  Pat Flannery’s squad has upcoming home contests against Villanova and St. Joe’s to try and ice their position as one of the best mid-majors.  Even with some non-conference losses, the Bison are the clear favorites to come out of the Patriot League, where they will once again do some serious damage. 

 

Winthrop, representing the Big South, and Iona from the MAAC, are a couple more teams that have performed well early in the season.  Harvard may not be a March threat, but they will make the Ivy more than the traditional two horse race.       

 

Have a question?  Email Joel at jwelser@collegehoops.net, Re: Monday Mailbag.  We’ll post and answer as many as possible.  Please include your first name and home state and put Monday Mailbag in the email title. 

 

Joel’s Thoughts of the Week

If you started attending Akron four years ago, you would never believe or expect what was to come athletically for the school.  The football squad will make their first bowl appearance after a thrilling last second victory in the MAC Championship game led by the heroics of wide receiver Domenik Hixon.  The men’s soccer team even made the “Final Four,” losing in penalty kicks to Maryland over the weekend.  And now the basketball team is looking for its first post season berth since 1989.  Nick Dials, a former Buckeye, made a miraculous recovery from a torn ACL to lead the backcourt.  And if that wasn’t enough, there is even a guy named Bubba, although he looks a lot more like an Adam.   It’s a great time to be a Zip, and that doesn’t happen very often.

 

Southern Illinois and Charlotte might be the biggest disappointments of the young season.  While SIU shows no sign of recovery, the 49ers have won four in a row and will still be a threat in the A10.

 

Isn’t it odd that half of Notre Dame’s team look like leprechauns?  Luke Zeller has a job as the mascot after his playing days are over.  http://und.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/zeller_luke00.html

 

Montana better watch out for Montana Western.  After UC Irvine beat Stanford they lost to Cal State University, Stanislaus ten days later.  I went to a Cal State school and I don’t even know where Stanislaus is located.  After a little research, it turns out the Warriors are in Turlock, California…which doesn’t really help me much.  But I’m betting Calvert Wright is the toast of the town, or village, after hitting the game winning shot to knock off the Anteaters. 

 

Kennesaw State ended last season 7th in the polls, the Division II poll.  The transition from the Peach Belt Conference to the Atlantic Sun is starting off with a bang for Coach Tony Ingle.  The Owls won their first two conference home games over favorites Lipscomb and Belmont this week to find themselves in a surprising spot; on top of the A-Sun standings.  The team from Kennesaw, Georgia wasn’t expected to be able to compete in Division I quite yet, but they are proving that the Owls will be a force in the conference this year and for years to come. 

 

 

Check back each week for Joel Wesler's Monday Mailbag, and email your question to jwelser@collegehoops.net

 

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